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    PROOF that R&H type 4 is a 9

    Undeniable proof that Riso-Hudson's "type 4" (enneagraminstitute) - and all the derivative descriptions of "type 4" - are describing an essential problem of TYPE 9.

    The Inferiority Complexthe subjective state of feeling inferior. In other words, when the loving holding in the environment is lost or inadequate, a belief arises that love and lovableness are conditional. When you feel that you are not lovable you are believing that ; the soul feels diminished, minimized, denuded of its good qualities, and ends up feeling like an inferior soul, lacking what makes the soul good. This feeling of deficiency is a sense of being intrinsically lacking in qualities that others have.


    Since each delusion is an intrinsic property of the nature of ego, the ego could not be an ego without believing that it is inferior. In a sense, this sense of inferiority is true, because when the soul is formed by the ego, it does not experience all the qualities of Being as part of itself. This sense of deficiency is not a sense of emptiness, the sense that a particular quality of Being is missing. It is more a deficient feeling, tone, or affect, that shapes the whole soul. This deficient tone is the sense of worthlessness, of not being good enough, or of just not being enough, along with the sense that something is not right, and a consequent loss of self-esteem. Most specifically, it is a feeling that you are intrinsically inferior, regardless of what you have, what you do, what you know, what you develop, or what or who you are. One of the associations people frequently have with this feeling is of being a second-class citizen, of being lower class or of a peasant class, and so it is directly related to social discrimination. It is a diminished sense of who you are, as if your very being, your very soul, is less than it should be, that what you are is second-class.


    This conviction that you are inferior is much more subtle and comprehensive than the sense that you lack a particular capacity, such as Will or Strength. It cannot be traced to any particular deficiency, and so it cannot be eliminated by recognizing within oneself any essential aspect connected with capacity. Also, experiencing Essence does not necessarily eliminate this sense of inferiority. You can fill all your holes and still feel inferiorfeels bereft of its positive quality.


    Ego intrinsically feels inferior. No matter what it owns, what it has, what it does, or what it can do, it will continue feeling itself to be inferior. As long as you allow the possibility that intrinsic goodness can be located in one place and not another, you allow the possibility that it can be located somewhere else. If you are identified with the ego and anything goes wrong, you immediately assume that it happened because what is good is not inside you. The slightest criticism, the slightest negativity, and right away you believe what is good is located somewhere other than inside you. This is why all children begin to believe that there is something wrong with them as they come to identify with the ego.


    If this difficulty is not understood and worked through, it will remain even if you are experiencing Essence. You cannot fully see or feel the beauty, importance, value, and loveliness of your own natureyou feel low in spirit, or bored with yourself. You feel that you are not good enough. When you deeply and clearly feel this state, you feel a sense of inferiority that feels as though your very soul is inherently ugly or deformed. Like a creature frequently seen in mythology, you might even feel like a twisted animal living undergroundutterly without any redeeming qualities. Just as inferiority is always associated with ugliness and deformity, beauty and the sense of being lovable always go hand in hand.


    This sense of inferiority is not a feeling that you were once pure and became contaminated, that you are inherently good and something got into you. It is, rather, the sense that you were deformed from the beginning, that God created you with a flawfeeling of inferiority.


    Everyone has this sense of inferiority, but most people keep it to themselves because it is accompanied by a feeling of deep shame. You feel deeply ashamed of yourself because you really believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with you. So everyone keeps this secret to themselves and suffers over it privately. Teenagers, again, especially suffer with this sense of inferiority, and are continuously comparing themselves to others, showing themselves exactly how inferior they are, and feeling deeply ashamed of themselvesthere is something wrong with you. The sense of wrongness in Point One is a judgment about oneself that is not necessarily global; while the sense is that there is something wrong with you, there are also things that are right about you. In Point Nine, the inferiority is overall, as though , or as though each atom of your protoplasm has had one electron removed. The difficulties of all three points at the top of the Enneagram are different sides of the same thing: the sinfulness of Point Eight, the inferiority of Point Nine, and the wrongness of Point One.


    This profound sense of deficiency and inferiority not only affects your feelings about yourself, it also has a big effect on your attitude toward your work and creativity. It disconnects you from seeing your own value, preciousness, and usefulness, and makes you believe that there is something wrong with what you do and what you produce, some imperfection that is subject to judgment and comparison. If you , you , and this not only disconnects you from your accomplishments, but also disconnects you from Essence, which leads us to the specific reaction of Point Nine.
    SOURCE: "Holy Ideas for Each Enneagram type: Point Nine HOLY LOVE" - Facets of Unity by A.H Almaas
    Sleep on the Ceiling - Erosian Exile

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    In contrast, type 4 has a strong self-identity. Too strong, in fact. Type 4 is an adamant insistence on their separate identity: they will claim they know EXACTLY who they are - and none can prove them wrong. There is no comparison to others. The 4 stands alone, or so they believe. It is a pure conviction in one's own originality, independence, and separation.
    Sleep on the Ceiling - Erosian Exile

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      #3
      Yup - here's four. And I read this description when I typed at four and this was part of what brought me to my knees shaking in tears while my whole life and inner experience crashed down on me.

      This is just part of the description but probably the most relevant part. The next part is about how four over-controls everything in order to hold on to the lie of the individual separate self.

      And I will emphasize: four is not searching for identity. Rather, four feels they already have a strong separate identity and the 'problem' is the inability - or refusal - to let go of that delusion.

      Separate Identity It is the sense that your identity exists on its own, separately and independently from all other people and all other things. Ennea-type Fours, in fact, typically take great pride in having an original, unique, and independent self. Holy Origin tells us that this is a delusion, since our true identity is the Absolute itself, which is the center of everything. If you believe that you have an independent and separate source, then everyone must have their own Absolute, which, of course, is impossible.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Animal View Post
        And I will emphasize: four is not searching for identity. Rather, four feels they already have a strong separate identity and the 'problem' is the inability - or refusal - to let go of that delusion.
        Extra-quoted and highlighted for emphasis. In today's Enneagram world, this cannot be repeated enough.
        Sleep on the Ceiling - Erosian Exile

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            #6
            https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4
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              • Daeva
                Daeva commented
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                WRONG: this is type 9
                <3

              • Animal
                Animal commented
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                ~~~~~~~~~ <3 ~~~~~~~~~~

              #8
              https://youtu.be/BPPSu0vaNWA


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                #9
                Gollum is the corrupted version of a hobbit, which isn't intrinsically bad. He became twisted from the influence of the ring so it's more a matter of suggestibility.

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