Originally this thread was called "Christian Indoctrination," but my main issue is with Original Sin. That's what I find myself and others on this forum talking and thinking about. So, I changed the title. This is the old post but I wanted to make this more of a discussion about the effects of Original Sin on culture.
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When I speak to Christians, I often share many of their values. However, I consider the religion to be poison, all the way back to its origins. The concept of "Original Sin" has woven its way into culture, subtly sometimes, and other times, overtly. In this thread I'll collect thoughts about this, as I've had many over the years. Feel free to debate or add your own, but note that I'm looking to collect a variety of thoughts on this topic, so I may interject new posts even if the debate is ongoing. If there's a lot to be said about something that is extraneous to Original sin and the problems with the basic principles of Christianity and cultural indoctrination - we can always move a side debate to another thread. The purpose of this thread is not to debate whether King Dildo the II or III decided to castrate Muslims and which century. I want to talk about the principles behind the ideology and the effects it has on individual and cultural psychology.
So let's talk about Christian sentiment and how it permeates culture. Please feel free to talk about real incidents too - your own upbringing, comparing and contrasting yourself as an atheist to a Christian friend, your own church experiences, your friends' good or bad experiences with it and how you see its deeper messages and day to day practices affecting you and them as a person. All of that is welcome, as it's part of the topic - you can't really delve into indoctrination without considering how it affects individual people.
As for history and wider research - note that my critique and sense of things is not coming from an informed history perspective as much as a psychological and experiential one, though I have picked up some history. So I'm very open to critiques and additional information.
My first post will demonstrate the type of things I notice, and there will be more.
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When I speak to Christians, I often share many of their values. However, I consider the religion to be poison, all the way back to its origins. The concept of "Original Sin" has woven its way into culture, subtly sometimes, and other times, overtly. In this thread I'll collect thoughts about this, as I've had many over the years. Feel free to debate or add your own, but note that I'm looking to collect a variety of thoughts on this topic, so I may interject new posts even if the debate is ongoing. If there's a lot to be said about something that is extraneous to Original sin and the problems with the basic principles of Christianity and cultural indoctrination - we can always move a side debate to another thread. The purpose of this thread is not to debate whether King Dildo the II or III decided to castrate Muslims and which century. I want to talk about the principles behind the ideology and the effects it has on individual and cultural psychology.
So let's talk about Christian sentiment and how it permeates culture. Please feel free to talk about real incidents too - your own upbringing, comparing and contrasting yourself as an atheist to a Christian friend, your own church experiences, your friends' good or bad experiences with it and how you see its deeper messages and day to day practices affecting you and them as a person. All of that is welcome, as it's part of the topic - you can't really delve into indoctrination without considering how it affects individual people.
As for history and wider research - note that my critique and sense of things is not coming from an informed history perspective as much as a psychological and experiential one, though I have picked up some history. So I'm very open to critiques and additional information.
My first post will demonstrate the type of things I notice, and there will be more.
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