Is there a way to escape the universe?

[Animal]

This question may sound insane, but it is addressed in this beautiful video.

From the video, both in text and recorded words:

"Physicists increasingly suspect that there may be multiple universes beyond our own, each with their own unique laws of physics. Some would harbor the right conditions for life, others could collapse or be ripped apart. Others could be far more exotic than anything we could image. New pieces to this puzzle are out there somewhere, waiting to be found.

The forecast does seem to be for an ever colder, ever emptier universe. But then of course we have to ask, could that end lead to a new beginning? And there are ideas whereby in some sense the end of our universe could be linked to a new one. Some speculate that there may be a way to escape our universe before entropy erases everything. We could create simulated virtual universes, or with enough energy, create another one just like our own.

We've worked out the mathematics, the equations. They seem to say that if you have an atom smasher that could concentrate tremendous amounts of energy at a single point, you could perhaps open up a gateway, a baby universe. Facing the death of everything there is, this is perhaps their only possibility of escape.

And this also raises a very intriguing possibility, sheer speculation of course - that perhaps every universe that has intelligent life in it will create baby universes, will create lifeboats and will proliferate child universes. So when evolution may take among universes in the multiverse, survival of the fittest may take place. So those universes that do not have intelligent life would be infertile, would have no children. But those universes that have mild temperatures, stars like us... would create civilizations that could open up child universes, and they would then proilferate.

If there is no way to escape the universe, then entropy will march on, destroying the last supermassive black hole.

"Once the very last remnants of the very last stars have finally decayed to nothing, and reached the same temperature, the story of the universe finally comes to an end. For the first time in its life, the universe becomes permanent and unchanging. Entropy finally stops increasing because the cosmos cannot get any more disordered. Nothing happens, and it keeps not happening forever."

What do you think? Any ideas, theories? Fantasies? Do you have knowledge about this topic? Let's discuss!

[Animal]

Regarding "intelligent species" -

To me, this video proposes something that humans would focus on if we were intelligent, as a whole. Unfortunately I am not convinced we are "intelligent life," considering we have the capability to address such questions - but we don't have the energy, resources or presence of (collective) mind. Countries are constantly at war with each other, politicians waste tons of money on campaigns while citizens starve, civil debates are a thing of the past, and people(s) are forced - through oppression - to focus on issues like race, gender, religion and abortion.

Of course, I get involved in talking about these topics too, so I don't exclude myself from this statement. But it makes me question whether it's correct to deem humans 'intelligent.'

[Vive]

What do you think? Any ideas, theories? Fantasies? Do you have knowledge about this topic? Let's discuss!

I think it's a very interesting and endearing theory/idea

I like the idea of baby universes and the idea that they would need the proper conditions and attributes in order to grow up thriving. It's like humans, but on an unimaginable scale.

You know, I heard some other theories about the universe collapsing in on itself to create heat-death. It made me think of a heartbeat. Like, you get a big bang and it contracts and expands like a heart, but then for a universe and stretched out over temporal infinity.

Regarding "intelligent species" -

To me, this video proposes something that humans would focus on if we were intelligent, as a whole. Unfortunately I am not convinced we are "intelligent life,"(...)

(...)Of course, I get involved in talking about these topics too, so I don't exclude myself from this statement. But it makes me question whether it's correct to deem humans 'intelligent.'

What do you mean by 'intelligent' in this context, or phrased differently:
what does humanity lack that makes it not intelligent in your eyes?

I don't know if we should be dealing with these things as humans yet. It's a conjecture distant in the far far future. It might be more prudent to further technology before we tackle issues like this. Furthermore, as much as war conflict and oppression are bad, they also are a breeding ground for innovation. Innovation of course happens just as easily during peaceful times too, but it might bring a different type of innovation. Perhaps, in the long-term conflicts also help us realize our mistakes and they help create technologies that save us. There are really a lot of directions we could be going in as humanity.

[Animal]

I like the idea of baby universes and the idea that they would need the proper conditions and attributes in order to grow up thriving. It's like humans, but on an unimaginable scale.

You know, I heard some other theories about the universe collapsing in on itself to create heat-death. It made me think of a heartbeat. Like, you get a big bang and it contracts and expands like a heart, but then for a universe and stretched out over temporal infinity.

This is exactly what I thought watching it, but you verbalized it so well! I was also thinking about the parallel between the universe's life and our own... and how all living beings are united by these patterns. This is why I've fallen in love with the phrase: "As above, so below."

What do you mean by 'intelligent' in this context, or phrased differently:
what does humanity lack that makes it not intelligent in your eyes?

The species lacks emotional intelligence. One example is spending money on war instead of science and space travel. And this collective low EQ is what will do us in. Humanity is focused on information wars and who knows more, while completely ignoring basic things like 'having compassion in an argument.' The point of the argument is to win, not to learn - so our low EQ lowers our IQ, collectively.

Does that make sense?

[Vive]

The species lacks emotional intelligence. One example is spending money on war instead of science and space travel. And this collective low EQ is what will do us in. Humanity is focused on information wars and who knows more, while completely ignoring basic things like 'having compassion in an argument.' The point of the argument is to win, not to learn - so our low EQ lowers our IQ, collectively.

Does that make sense?

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you think that we as a whole lack the selflessness, compassion and empathy necessary to be an intelligent species?

I don't disagree. It's unfortunate that many of us don't realize that we are all in the same proverbial boat and that if you will make a mess others will get stuck in it too. If we don't maintain the boat it will fall into disrepair. Even if you have the biggest room in the boat with the most expensive stuff, when the ship sinks, the rich, arrogant and powerful go down all the same.

On average we might be unintelligent, but luckily the earth doesn't consist of billions of average humans.

[Animal]

Even if you have the biggest room in the boat with the most expensive stuff, when the ship sinks, the rich, arrogant and powerful go down all the same.

Yes, this is what I'm talking about. I love to celebrate differences between people and it doesn't bother me that some are rich and some are poor, per se. The problem is the way we go about giving the poor access to resources so they might have a chance to thrive. I do believe that the rich have responsibility toward the poor. However I don't think the solution is giving money to the government to redistribute, because the government, to me, is an even worse evil. This is a whole other topic of debate though. As I've said many times, people get hung up on 'right vs left' and fail to realize that capitalism and socialism both have a good point to make. The only way to resolve problems is through open-minded and open-hearted discussion about solutions. Experimenting with solutions in smaller societies is not a bad idea, either - provided we are honest about the results. The media generally isn't. And this is what I mean about 'low EQ.'

On average we might be unintelligent, but luckily the earth doesn't consist of billions of average humans.

Amen <3

[hiddenglass]

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[Quindary]

I need to come back to this when I have more time. It's a question that lurks under my own awareness, too.

[Quindary]

To me, escaping the universe has always been an individual question, and not the cleanest science.

There may be technologies that would allow us to open a baby universe and save some of the race, a new biblical Adam and Eve. But in the end, this may amount to the preservation of something antiquated that should die, because the true way to survive these types of events is through adaptation.

So what type of person, what type of mind - consciousness - could survive a universal purge or collapse? What type of training would it take, what would you as a human need to be able to do? This depends on some of the answers to my own questions, what consciousness is, what death really is, how far the mind can be stretched...what actually persists. If the matter of your body is bound to be destroyed in some event, but you know what's beyond it, what will persist and so on - you can build the capacity to place your mind past your matter into what persists, and hence you, in some form, can outlast. This type of personal evolution is what I think would be truly best to persist, as it works with the universe's design rather than against it.